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Jean reproducing Rachel was just an idea, if Claremont hadn't talked about it on the forum you'd have never known about it.
Do I want Rachel back but not as Phoenix? I'd take anything I can get since I think it's probably unlikely to see her again. but I think she is as much as Phoenix as Jean. In fact, in a way Rachel not being Phoenix is "worst" than Jean not being Phoenix because Jean used her real name many times before, in so many mediums, and Marvel always changes its mind about Jean's status (well, actually she was Phoenix for 8 years straight until Grant chose to reset here back to Jean Grey and ignore the last 8 years of Phoenix only so he could change her back again to make it look like he's the first, or second person to do it.) on the other hand, ever since Rachel claimed the mantle of Phoenix she was never changed back into plain Rachel Summers. If I had my way they would both be Phoenix, in different teams.
I'm afraid that Jean as Phoenix is becoming too commercialized, "Phoenix" in some titles is no longer part of Jean's personality and powers but a cheap plot device. I really hope that after X-Men Reloaded the stories won't revolve around "Phoenix", I hope that Phoenix would just be one of Jean's aspects, something permanent and subtle.
One last thing
when Claremont said that there's only one "Phoenix" as far as he's concerned he didn't say it was Jean or Rachel, maybe he was actually referring to the "Phoenix" force, because he tried to establish in the first Excalibur that there is only one PF in existence. I'll have to look for that message; I forgot the exact wording.
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