I'm not trying to upset you, and i'm not trying insult anyone here.;) This is just the impression i got from chris claremont. I always felt jean was phoenix nadav, because why would chris say that phoenix or dark phoenix was the extent of jean's powers? Chris also said that when Jean's best friend annie died, not only was jean catalyst but jean died there with her bestfriend annie but found a way to come back. That sounds like phoenix there well it came off that way to me. I mean you could be right though. I'm not saying that you're wrong i'm just saying that when chris talked about it on the universal dvd which was the legend of wolverine it just got me off guard and it had me wondering that's all. Things that make you go maybe she was phoenix all along? That was of course right before jean met xavier and he placed breakers up so she would be able to learn how to control and use her powers. I'm defintley still going to check out excalibur, regardless if people here says it sucks. I have to find out for myself, and i'll get back to you on that if i like it or not.:lol