Hey Delvian.

Sorry if I boiled your blood, that was not my intent.

I guess a lot of it has to do with the way I was raised.

I dont identify myself as only Gay or Queer. In fact it is such a small part of who I am that, THAT, is why I dont feel that this marriage thing is a good idea the way Gay Activists want it "forced" upon everyone else. That is what I am against.

If I love someone... I DONT need ANYONES approval. I DONT need to be accepted by everyone. I Certainly DONT need it to be documented. If I love someone I LOVE that person. What did people do when they loved someone back when there was no government... or time when Marriage was even a word... ( I do know that we do live in a time where these things are relevant, so all i can say, is, let's let people who want to be petty over the word ~be~ petty over it... and make a new word for "gay Marriage" so that No one can deny that two men or women can form a long lasting loving relationship that is healthy!)

I just think you guys are missing the most IMPORTANT PART of MARRIAGE! Its not the word MARRIAGE that really matters.... its the LOVE.... do you LOVE that person to Spend the rest of your LIFE with them.... and if you do... isnt EVERYTHING moot. I mean when is the world ever going to be happy happy for everyone... you just can't do that right now... you can't make everyone happy.


Equality... now... that is the dream like the X-Mens dream... to live together. But... are you gonna make that dream happen.. the way its being done by force or through peace.

You have to help people understand, not just state that your entitled to something and that/s that, you have to be reasonable.

And Also I'm glad that Link talked to you to come and post. Needless to say people will disagree /smiles at Link :yes: I just dont want to be caught up in some debate when really No ONE is wrong... we are just voicing opinions. So to say I or you are wrong for beleiving in what we do is stupid and I hope no one would do that. To me. OR anyone who posts in these controversial topics.

The main reason I don't post much is because there is a feeling here like your either in or your out. I'm not into that. Heck I love to share parts about my life and who I am like we all do, but the main reason I came here was my interest in Psychic Phenomena and Jean Grey, and Phoenix mythology.

I'm not here to explain why I think Gay Marriage as stated right now is a good idea or bad idea, nor even needed. Personaly the more important issues are the Anti-Disrimination Laws that help keep kids from getting Killed, and equal employment opportunities and the like are sooo much more important to me than haveing everyone aacept my "Marriage".

I guess it just boils down to the fact that... I could care less if the Government aknowledged my Marriage to my Lover, as long as my Lover knows that I love him, and we are commited to each other that to me is what matters most.

In the end, I dont care if anyone agree's with what I am saying or not. It is my beleifs. If anyone wants to tell me how two men (or two women) commiting themselves to one another is the Same as A Man and A Woman commiting themselves, then let me know... because to me there is something different.

I am not anti-Gay. I just think there is another solution to this than trying to make everyone accept it as a Black and White solution by allowing Gay Marriage.

when you force things upon people... they will resent you for it.

If there was a diplomatic solution for this I would be all for it. But as stated I do not agree with changing the definition of Marriage to include two men or two women,, or 3 men and 1 women or 4 women or 1 man... its just going to get silly. (this is what I am forseeing)

Two men or Two women should be entitled to commit themselves to each other. They should be able to recieve all the benifits that a Married Man and Woman can, but I will never think of it the same as what I beleive to be Marriage.

Unlike many activists... and like I stated earlier... I don't need to have it called a Marriage to know who i love... and who is my soulmate.

(i could talk more about this, but its late and I don't want to be unclear on my main message)

A little Aside: I do not see how segregation and racism which did happen can be likend to the same as making a word for something that IS DIFFERENT and would be appropriate for a word where two men or women commited to each other should have a different word. Heck if people are saying that two men or two women can't love one another or can't be legally akknowleged I'd be the first to tell them off!!! But as for changing the definition of Marriage.... I see it as a buch of pettiness running rampant on all sides of this eqaution. So lets stop it and make a new word ... just like the rainbow is a symbol of gay culture.

A tomato is called a tomato. A Potato is called a Potato, they are not segregated because one isnt the same, they are different so they should be called different things and I dont see how calling something a different name because it is different is segregation.

Just my opinion. (i'm entitled to it just as you are entitled to yours)