Disclaimer: None of the following is meant to deride, demean or denounce anyone's opinions over anothers. I am merely attempting to explain my position. If my language seems harsh, please do point it out, because I know that sometimes it can appear that way even without my meaning it to. I apologize in advance, if that is how it is presented to the rest of you, though;

There are many things I've agreed with you on, throughout the time we've both spent on this board, respectively, and my intention was never to rebuff even when I DID disagree. Merely to discuss, as I said in the earlier post, because I realize that, even on a single issue where a group is in general agreement upon it, no one is going to agree on every little thing and, actually, I like that fact.

Still, though, I think there is a possibility you might have missed *my* point, or forgotten what I've written, FP. I *do* think Jean has personal flaws and that most, if not all, are just emphasized by what you illustrate as her dark periods. I have ALWAYS said this. And, feeling the way I do, why would I not discuss and acknowledge her 'negative points', throughout her dark periods and her more personal ones, as well as her 'positive points' (which I HAVE done, on all sides, whether they are acknowledged or not)? I see no reason why it should make it unworkable, either. A three-dimensional character only arises from someone with personal internal flaws and goodness and the interactions between the two, after all. Thanks.

<<And she wasn't such a Mary Sue that she didn't recognize her goody-goody nature as an actual alienating factor.>>

Maybe that's the problem. I don't see that, anywhere. It seems like she never understood that, to me. So while I like Evo Jean, she isn't my favorite. She seems much like Emma, in that respect, except in the opposite direction. Emma didn't realize her 'nastybadness' (Yes, that is Preserver speak from ElfQuest). She always put it down to or pushed it off on something else. And, that's one of the reasons I've disliked Emma's character, in the past. Because her intelligence should have belied that to her, eventually, but, until very recently, it hasn't. The same thing with Jean. Her intelligence was being overcome by her personal flaws, imvho. As I indicated above, to me, Evo Jean (OR Emma) should have been intelligent enough to, at least, recognize those facts and she (they) didn't.

<<This why I generally hate Scott. His evolution from boy scout to uber macho man isn't grounded in his core identity but in artificially making him fun and interesting. Keeping up with the Logans. Give him an affair, make him brood, cheat, crazier macho military etc. He gets lamer and lamer. There is rarely a complex portrayal of the boy within the man and how the two meet. Things are just dismissed as that discussion isn't cool.>>

And that may be another thing, as well as something else we should agree to disagree on, possibly? I DO see it as grounded in his character.

As for Evo, that Rogue is my favorite, so I am hoping that part of your post wasn't directed, specifically, at me? Like I said, too, I haven't really watched WAXM, so I am just basing this, of course, on the glimpses I've had of her character.

I agree. They should have made more episodes of Evo, rather than make WAXM.


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