perdid wrote:
We really are at a turning point now... Jean have been "dead for nearly 10 years, a new generation of readers came in who never read Jean in continuity...reading different posts on other forums, there is a lot of negativity about Jean, nearly hate, actually I feel that jean and her fans are now bullied....

People like Quesada and brevoort have been really dismissive and aggressive to jean fans and doing so they made most readers think that Jean is so uncool.... and now they have started to completely robe Jean of what she was...They started to completely deconstruct her heritage.

Jean is not special anymore, she is not the white phoenix, the crown, she is just another red head(because now the phoenix seem to have a particular taste for red head) a pathetic host who couldn't control the phoenix and had to kill herself to stop it...And that didn't even work...Forgotten all the time when Jean saved the universe using the power, forgotten all the time she was perfectly in control, forgotten "we are one", forgotten her very intimate connection with the force...what is left is a pathetic host who couldn't control the phoenix and died... For the phoenix to go another red head...

AVX show no understanding at all of the Phoenix force...It's like the writers never read anything about the phoenix, it's so bad it's beyond belief....they are pretending that all storyline since M day are leading that that!!!so they had years to prepare, make sure everything make sense, and we getting that???there is no excuses for bad writing!!!

And now to have Brevoort getting angry because fans demand for continuity to be respected is just hypocritical.... they have no sense of continuity, it's just really bad, bad writing, you cannot choose and pick, they don't own the x-men, they just hold the right to write them now....they have to respect the rich tapestry that make the x-men what they are... if they don't it's just fan fiction and a really bad one...
AVX read like a big promo for the Avengers movie, no X-men continuity or characters are respected here, they went out of their way to disminish Jean to a background character dead for years....after all the hints and "keep an eye on the little girl with red hair" once again we have been taken for fools... and we are bullied because we dare asking and wondering about Jean in this events???? they dragged us along for years, taking our money, because we had "hope " that that was the big story leading to Jean return... instead of that, that AVX event is the final assassination of Jean Grey, the obliteration of her history... and that is much worse than death in comics....

I really hope no Jean's fan will carry on buying AVX...."LET'S BOYCOTT THAT EVENT"... Can you resist buying it????
Hey Perdid.

Yeah, man, I get your pain and anguish!  And I understand!  Really.  I see many of your points: that Jean has been dead for a very long time, the hate that is out there and the fans of Jean who get bullied.  I swear, on other forums, saying or having "Phoenix" of "Jean" in your avatar/name makes people hate you right off the bat!

I also see the point of how Jean does not seem special anymore because of all the bad writing and the deconstructing of Jean's history with the PF...I mean, how about "Now and forever, I am Phoenix!"  Written away with the change in stories that this was the PF in human form.  Among many other examples.  And while I got used to others claiming the power of Phoenix, I didn't want Jean to be just 1 of 100's that have assumed this title.  1 of a few, OK, I got used to that, but not 100's. 

I got the feeling right at the start of baby Hope that that was not Jean.  Jean would not need to be reborn through a mortal vessel.  Likewise, I had a feeling that AVX was not about Jean.  I had Hoped that they would be cleaning up the Phoenix history, getting ready for Jean's return next year in 2013.  So, no Jean in AVX now does not surprise me.  Likewise, I now feel slightly that Jean may not even return next year.

I also see Constance's points (Hi, Constance! Smile).  I don't let Marvel or haters take away my love for Jean or the Phoenix.  Or from using the name and image.  I keep the good mem'ries I have as I remember them.  I pick what Jean stories are in continuity and I discard the rest.  To me, Jean is the Phoenix, and that's how I see her.  Nothing about Omega Mutant and the what-not.  Just Jean ascending to her destiny as the powerhouse she is!

To me, Jean is out there is space/time, on other planets, righting the wrongs that exist as Phoenix.  She makes friends, meets other superheroes, and has some girl-time with her alien friends.  She might even kiss/date men who are worthy of her.  She has a huge heart full of love and compassion.  As Constance stated, people only have as much power over us as we allow.  Don't let them---not even Marvel--- to take away what you love: Jean Grey Phoenix.  Marvel may have created Phoenix in 1974, but they don't understand one thing about her in 2012.  Just as they created Jean Grey in 1963, but look where they keep her in 2012. 

It's all about believing---believe in Jean and keep her in your heart/mind as special as you want.  That's what I do---Jean Grey Phoenix is alive to me and is out there helping others.

I Hope this helped you all some, even if just a little...